Tuesday, February 6, 2018

"Me Too" and the Logic of the Vigilante



Women have been harassed in many ways at the workplace, from outright rape to far less aggressive ways, comments about their bodies, their scents, or simply comments from men about their own desire for those women who have to work with them every day.
Atwood


The "Me Too" movement has succeeded in raising awareness of this serious and pervasive problem.


But "Me Too" has also embraced a mode of the vigilante--punishment without trial.
The argument made by "Me Too" advocates has been the legal system, and corporate systems run by Human Resources, have failed to protect women and failed to deliver justice, and given the failure of established institutions to redress their grievances, women are justified in going to the press, to social media to exact revenge by public shaming.


This is always the way with the vigilante: The argument almost always involves at least three elements:
1/ The established process of judges, juries and trials is too slow.
2/ The legal system often fails to convict guilty parties, who get off "scot free."
3/ Women need protection, but the legal system in its failure to protect is complicit in the crime.


"The Oxbow Incident," written decades ago, shows how this can play out. In the end, three innocent men are hanged for a crime which, it turns out, was never committed.


As Margaret Atwood has asked: "Do Good Feminists believe that only women should have such rights?"  She adds, "I believe that in order to have civil and human rights for women there have to be civil and human rights, period, including the right to fundamental justice."


Yet, that is exactly what the "Me Too" women would deny the men they've accused.
Atwood outraged "Me Too" by referring to a witch hunt.
"There are, at present, three kinds of "witch" language. 1/ Calling someone a witch, as applied lavishly to Hilary Clinton during the recent election. 2/"Witchhunt," used to imply that someone is looking for something that doesn't exist. 3/ The structure of the Salem witchcraft trials in which you were guilty because being accused.  I was talking about the third use."
Accusation is Final Judgment


She goes on to note that Me Too is a symptom of a broken legal system. I would add that it is the symptom of the perception of a broken legal system. Doctors and many swept up into the criminal justice system have known for decades our justice system is any thing but.


"All too frequently, women...couldn't get a fair hearing through institutions including corporate structures--so they used a new tool: the internet...This has been very effective, and has been seen as a massive wake up call. But what next? If the legal system is bypassed because it is seen as ineffectual, what will take its place? Who will be the new power brokers?"


Will we have tumbrils rolling through the streets of Hollywood and New York and Madame Dufarge knitting names into her cloth?
Duke Lacrosse Falsely Accused


Examples of false accusations have been noted: The UVA fraternity rape that wasn't; the Duke lacrosse team rapists who committed no rape and no crime; the comedian whose accuser went home with him, got naked and didn't like what followed.
Lurid detail. Lies.


And then there is the case of Al Franken, who was likely boorish, stupid, unfunny but hardly a rapist or even much of a bully. More a stupid adolescent who has no idea how to approach women in a way which they might find attractive, not to mention acceptable.


The very range of complaint, from the man who puts up a Playboy pin up at his work station next to the work station of his female coworker, is hardly the same sort of harasser as  the TV star who has a button on his desk which locks the door to his office, so the woman cannot escape and he can rape her. Those are two very different offenses in my mind, but not, apparently in the mind of Me Too.


Some Me Too folks say it's not even the individual man who is the problem but the systematic oppression of women by a patriarchy. Really? Where are we now?


Those who argue the airing of accusations in the press is just, argue that in the respectable press, the accused are given the opportunity to respond, but thus far most of those accused have not denied the accusations, which proves they are guilty. Of course, those who refuse to comment have likely been admonished by their lawyers to say nothing, presumably because even the innocent in denying inexpertly may open themselves up to new charges.


In the case of Harvey Weinstein, we had that old "I'm entering therapy" which is in fact, an admission of guilt,  at least to some of the charges. But in the case of Al Franken his denial was that he remembered things differently, and that was taken as an admission of guilt as well.


Hardly.


The other Me Too trope is while there have been some clear instances of women bearing false witness and accusing men who had not wronged them, those unjustly strung up in the court of public opinion are "collateral damage," and their fate is justified by the need for revenge on the part of all those women who have been wronged for whom there was no other option to seek justice.


The result has been, to my eye, something akin to mob justice. That is the alternative to a dysfunctional legal system.


An accusation of harassment must be taken as a substantial act, an act of aggression. It may be warranted, but it is aggressive. It should be subject to question, to cross examination. In any system of adjudication, the punishment and judgment should fit the level of offense: The rapist belongs behind bars; the guy who puts up the Playboy pin up is a jerk, but does not belong behind bars.


What you have to ask yourself is this: Can a legal system be fixed, improved, righted? 


Then ask: Can mob rule ever be made just?


So it comes down to this: Do you prefer law or the mob?















4 comments:

  1. Those of us out here in the blogosphere are eagerly awaiting Maud's carefully considered, insightful response to this. Hopefully, we won't have to wait too long!

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  2. Anon,
    Well, she might respond, but I am doing so with trepidation. She does tend to be fierce about the wrongs done women...and children, and animals and immigrants.
    But we shall see.
    Mad Dog

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  3. Mad Dog and Anon,
    You and I are on the same page when it comes to the #MeToo Movement, and so is Margaret Atwood. Good company. She wrote that she's a "Bad Feminist" because she believes in due process and is opposed to vigilante justice and mob rule. Me too. Of course I support the main premise of the movement-it's necessary, long overdue and hugely important to women, but as time goes on, I have become increasingly disturbed by it's overreach. I take exception to the cavalier attitude some in the movement exhibit towards the notion that innocent men could be unfairly harmed by the ever widening net. Collateral damage is not acceptable and accused does not equal guilty. You are correct-there is a huge difference between Weinstein and Franken. When members of the movement fail to acknowledge this, they do an injustice to victims of sexual assault. This extremist view of "off with ALL their heads" is offensive to me, as is the apparent view of many feminists that criticism of the movement is weakness-or treason. It's not.

    Although I have to say I was less impressed and more perplexed by the letter signed by Catherine Denueve and the other 99 French women than you were. The letter opens with comments about the overzealous nature of #MeToo-or it's french equivalant and the fact that attraction between the sexes is natural. Agreed. Then at least for me, in several sections, it veers off the rails. It takes offense at men being reprimanded or fired when their "only crime" was to "touch a woman's knee, try to steal a kiss, talk about intimate things during a work meal or send sexually charged messages to women who did not return their interest." What??!!There appears to be quite a bit more than the Atlantic ocean separating American and French women, since there are few women here in the US who would not view that as inappropriate and damn strange work behavior. Now let me be clear, I know several long married couples who met at work. Their employer may have had rules barring employees from dating, but it's difficult for company policy to overrule mutual attraction. However, I'm almost certain these relationships did not begin by the men trying to "steal a kiss" at work. (But I can't swear to that-just a hunch)...Then there was the completely bizarre reference to a man rubbing himself against a woman on a subway and how it was perfectly natural for a woman to consider this, among other things. a non-event..Hmm...C'est la vie-just another ride on the train..Oh those worldly French women...I on the other hand, not being French, must confess a man rubbing himself against me on the subway-depending upon what was being rubbed-would consider that more than a non-event. Certainly not life altering, but a most definite unpleasant experience. N'est ce pas?

    Finally, I'm sure you saw that Trump weighed in on all of this yesterday. He said men's lives were being ruined by "mere allegation" and wondered what happened to due process. A conveniently self serving position for sure, but also one you and I share. Me, Mad Dog, Margaret Atwood and Donald-Good Lord what is the world coming to...
    Maud

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  4. Ms. Maud,

    Yes, it did send a cold chill down my spine to see I am now on the same page, or at least in the same book at President Jell-O in being dismayed by the excess of Me Too.
    And yes, re-reading Ms. Deneuve's letter, it is apparent I did rather skim past the passages you focused on. Some denial on my part. Those things seemed so...French, somehow, they did not give me pause, but you are right to point to them. Stealing a kiss would hardly seem tolerable on a date, much less at work, of course.
    Your whole paragraph of dissent, as I read it, is persuasive. Damn strange work behavior, indeed.

    Strange is the operative word, in spades. These men, from the description of what they did, Weinstein, Franken, even Trump, simply sound weird.
    How men try to test the interest of women in America is the stuff of endless discussion and portrayal. But there are, apparently, some men who do not bother with the question, "Is she interested" and simply move on to step 2, okay I'm going to grab her and see what happens.

    At the hospital, where there were many late nights and bars next door where hospital people gathered after work, you had a sort of built in mechanism. You didn't say a word at work, but if you saw someone at the bar after work, you could slip into a different mode, although even then, you had to work with that woman the next day, so you were careful.
    The stuff I read about the Donald and Weinstein and even Al Franken makes them sound not just boorish, but bizarre, really strange.
    And the rubbing against a woman in the subway I would think would hardly be a non event on a New York Subway.
    Of course, sexual mores have been changing over the decades, but most of this, I thought, had to do with openness about sex, not so much with rules of the road about how one invites interest.
    One would think most Americans do not begin with touching, but with speaking.

    Mad Dog

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